[Open-education] Import Lesson

Marieke Guy marieke.guy at okfn.org
Fri Jul 4 08:20:35 UTC 2014

and +1 to Mick's comments!

On 04/07/2014 09:06, Mick - FM wrote:
> On 04/07/14 00:56, Raniere Silva wrote:
>> I wrote some thoughts about it at
>> http://blog.rgaiacs.com/2014/07/02/import_lesson_is_possible.html  and love to
>> get feedbacks.
> Hi there,
> I agree that we should totally advocate that OER fit with the idea of 
> Data Portability.
> Unfortunately, this idea seems to have failed to gain traction - I 
> never even knew there was a Data Portability project 501c3
> But alnyway it seems to have died a death along with the Open Web!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataPortability
> But the idea is still valid for us in open education land. I'll post 
> that link to the chapter of the Open Web book on the same subject 
> again as it's relevant here.
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/an-open-web/your-rights-and-freedoms/
> Raniere, as far as your blog post goes. I think that technically I 
> agree with a lot of what you are saying but you could be in danger of 
> over thinking it. I think that while a git tech approach clearly has 
> advantages for forking and remerging materials, I think operating it 
> would create too many barriers for most educators self-publishing 
> materials.
> Rather than try to gather a movement to adopt a new standard. I would 
> suggest working within the limits of what epub can deliver is a better 
> approach.
> I need to write a better blog post to get across some of the 
> discussion that happened at this session at the recent cetis conference.
> http://blogs.cetis.ac.uk/wilbert/2014/06/24/when-does-a-book-become-a-web-platform/
> My argument would go something like this.
> * most OER are shared by the person / team that writes them
> * online courses, Moocs, OER repositories are increasingly the place 
> where OER are collaboratively written using blog type, wysiswyg tools 
> which output HTML pages
> * format specs like Scorm and metadata standards like LOM are too hard 
> for self publishers to use
> * epubs are the most suitable candidate to allow importing and 
> exporting of OER into these platform allowing us the freedom to exit 
> and remix between repositories
> * EDUPUB is in danger of bringing a lot of complexity to the equation 
> and hindering uptake
> * let's not get hung up on interactivity - let's get the workflow 
> working with simple epubs first and use the web coding priciple of 
> "progressive enhancement" to bring more interactivity to OER
> * exported ePubs work well on mobile devices (just saying)
> * ePubs - all the way - let's advocate for all VLEs, MOOCs, Blogs etc 
> to accept import and export of ePubs
> Raniere, would you consider looking at coding an import epub function 
> to the tool you will be using. Can you imagine some kind of workflow 
> with epub that invites forking and remerging?
> Everyone else, is the above argument valid? What are your thoughts? 
> Why isn't this more common for OER platforms?
> Here are some relevant links to some of the above - I've been playing 
> around with exporting and importing epubs into various platforms AND 
> creating epubs from web pages ( very handy)  as part of the recent 
> Mozilla webmaker training.
>   * Mozilla Webmaker
>     <http://discourse.webmakerprototypes.org/t/part-three-final-experiment-in-creating-remixable-oers/456>
>     - Mick's ePub series:
>       o Pt 1 - Create epubs from web pages
>         <http://discourse.webmakerprototypes.org/t/part-two-experiments-in-creating-remixable-oer/374/4>
>       o Pt 2 - Explore and embed a video into an epub
>         <http://discourse.webmakerprototypes.org/t/part-two-experiments-in-creating-remixable-oer/374/4>
>       o Pt 3 - Remix and reuse epubs with online editors
>         <http://discourse.webmakerprototypes.org/t/part-three-final-experiment-in-creating-remixable-oers/456>
>     Tools
>   * Booktype at Sourcefabric <http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/booktype/>
>   * Pressbooks <http://pressbooks.com/>
>   * Grab my Books <http://www.grabmybooks.com/> - firefox plugin
>   * Calibre- epub editor <http://calibre-ebook.com/>
> -- 
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