[Open-access] Trying to index the malaria literature for BOAI-Openness - what has to be done paper-by-paper?

Peter Murray-Rust pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Tue Mar 13 17:05:04 GMT 2012


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Tom Olijhoek <tom.olijhoek at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Do I understand it right that you did a search for just *one keyword
> "malaria"*?
> PMR says that MW gave >70K references
> I thought that Mark extracted >70K references using the *set of keywords*provided by us (MW)?
>

That's what I meant


> This is of no consequence to the observation that google search seems to
> do a good job.
> We recently had a discussion (Mark, Tom , Bart, Serge [admin MW]) that the
> MW ref database of 2010-2011 will be compared to the pmc exracted
> references for these years to see how identical the sets are.
> That will be the basis for an extraction over a long time period using the
> chosen keywords.
> When you can use Google to sort the CC-BY and CC-0 it would be fantastic!
>
> TOM
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Daniel Mietchen <
> daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Google does not give a simple list of results, and it currently yields
>> over 80k hits for malaria on PMC:
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=malaria+site%3Awww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpmc.
>>
>> However, the Crawler currently being coded as part of the Open Access
>> Media Importer (cf.
>>
>> http://wir.okfn.org/2012/03/10/open-access-media-importer-apology-frontend-usage/
>> ) does almost what you are looking for, and so it should not be too
>> difficult to modify it accordingly.
>>
>> I have copied Nils and Raphael - my partners on this - into this mail.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Mietchen
>> > <daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just seen in
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2012/03/13/sparc2012-a-manifesto-in-absentia-for-open-data/
>> >> :
>> >> "Our recent @ccess group is trying to index the malaria literature for
>> >> BOAI-Openness and it has to be done paper-by-paper"
>> >>
>> >> I am not sure what PMR had in mind here that "has to be done
>> >> paper-by-paper", but albeit PMC / PMUK do indeed a bad job in
>> >> identifying papers by their licenses,
>> >
>> >
>> > That's exactly what I meant!
>> >>
>> >> Google does it fairly well:
>> >> 216 PMC articles under CC0 are being brought up in search for "malaria"
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=malaria+site%3Awww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpmc+%22Creative+Commons+Public+Domain%22
>> >> as well as over 9000 under CC BY:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=malaria+site%3Awww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpmc+%22http%3A%2F%2Fcreativecommons.org%2Flicenses%2Fby%22+-%22by-sa%22++-%22by-nc%22++-%22by-nd%22
>> >> (for further stats, see
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://wir.okfn.org/2011/07/14/a-wiki-approach-to-open-access-and-open-science/#comment-44
>> >> ).
>> >>
>> >> Of course, the relevance of these papers for Malaria World cannot be
>> >> established that way.
>> >>
>> > Malaria World gave us 70K references and the questions is how we
>> establish
>> > the Openness of them. We can start with Google and maybe intersect the
>> sets.
>> > Does google give a simple list of the 9000 papers?
>> >
>> >>
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>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter Murray-Rust
>> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
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>> > University of Cambridge
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Peter Murray-Rust
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University of Cambridge
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