[wsfii-discuss] REVIEW - Wireless Training in Winneba
marco.pompe at web.de
Wed Aug 22 12:44:22 BST 2007
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> Gesendet: 22.08.07 12:33:58
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> I think Vickram has a lot of relevant points. (see below)
> Workshops can deliver effectively only a certain distance - to distribute new skills, to enthuse and energize people and to make friends and contacts. The high of the workshop and the energy generated - specifically the visions generated and fantasized often come crashing back to earth because the real world is a "bit" more difficult than the workshop + positive environment. Group energy works differently from individual energy
let me put the question a little wider: What benefits can we expect from a specific event? it is certainly a part of every events preparation to set up an agenda, in which the event is located, in which the the event is playing a certain role. When we have a conclusion on that we can easily identify how the meeting should look like. We need experieneces like dharamsala or winneba to actually learn about ourselves: What do we want? Knowing more about that we will know who to bring in, I guess.
> The "real world" has lots of distractions and other attendent problems - physical resources, problem solving capabilities, human resources. The poorer and less connected the community the harder and slower it is to make things happen.
> A question i have for participants of workshops (esp the hands on one) is that how many have a plan of how they are going to use their learning. - Frankly this is a very tough question to answer. How many workshops build into their programme a real follow up mechanism and a real assurance of help. Workshop organizers don't get me wrong but across the spectrum this is a lacunae - where do we draw the line between how much to spend on workshops and how much to spend on enabling a programme.
> Indians / South asians (since thats my context) on this list are free to disagree - but we do not have the resource people who are willing to work / help with small less resourced projects - the bigger the project the scale goes further away from the poorer communities.
That is definitly a problem but not an automatism. It depends on the ability of the organizers to combine good contacts to grassroots project as well as big NGOs, ministries and other sponsors.
ex-cathedra means something like frontal teaching. one is talking, all others are humbly listening ;)
> On 8/22/07, Vickram Crishna <v1clist at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Speaking as a 'local' from a 3rd world country, I have
> witnessed the difficulty faced in organising local
> events that will justify the time and effort put in by
> participants who will travel far and wide to be there.
> Thing is, so do the locals, often enough, although
> that doesn't seem to be so obvious to outsiders till
> they get (t)here.
> For such events to happens smoothly (and believe me
> this has nothing to do with 'self-organising', but
> unfortunately is perhaps perceived as being related),
> even the local groups need support.
> The regrettable truth is that the costs of such
> support are more or less the same as needed to meet
> the ongoing costs of such events anywhere in the
> world, but are considered to be out of 'proportion' to
> the results. Which is to say, locals cope with and
> often overcome obstacles that do not exist in other
> parts of the world. Naturally, this is not valued
> A reality we all face is that the value of things
> (resources, efforts, human time and ingenuity) is
> equated to money, but that money (currently, or
> perhaps inherently) does not reflect the equitable
> value of the resources expended. Part of the wsfii
> think process is naturally aimed at overcoming this.
> Seems like Winneba has richly illustrated it.
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