[okfn-discuss] registration and "relinquishment"
ml at creativecommons.org
Sun Jul 27 17:58:38 BST 2008
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:29 AM, <jo at frot.org> wrote:
> Creative Commons and others are currently developing tools to
> certify the public domain status of a work or to determine the status
> of works with unknown status. This session will also touch on the role
> of copyright registries ... http://communia-project.eu/node/109
> I would be interested to hear more about what CC are doing with this.
Relinquishment, see http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0
Certifying/determining status of works -- next thing we're working on,
including a PD assertion/certification that would help others
independently verify the status of a work, and collaboration with
projects like OpenLibrary and OKFN.
Registries could support this work, but registries are hard to define.
See presentations and video from
> Also supposing that CKAN is one of the "and others" concerned.
> Doesn't this look like a DRM worldview? I've heard the argument from
> (Geo)DRM fans that their work is in the interests of openess because
> it serves to provide assurance that works are free and for public use.
> I'm reminded of the work done for the recent EU funded project Orchestra:
> Therefore for the purposes of the prototype rights management
> capability we drew inspiration from and extended the standard
> licensing terms as defined in Creative Commons 
> http://www.eu-orchestra.org/docs/ORCHESTRA-Book.pdf section 7.5
Curious looking pictures, but I see no details. :)
> ... thus combining CC terms with a set of different DRM restrictions.
> So of course work on registration and *certification* of works
> serves equally well to close as it does to open.
This is debatable. DRM requires local software that attempts to
control what a user can do with content. Historically the intersection
of DRM and digital rights description/expression/rights management
information has been just about nil. So much so it has long been a
curiosity of mine. Availability of information about a work won't make
DRM suddenly start working.
> I wonder to what extent CC's development of work in this area has been
> driven by approaches from restrictions-focused projects like this.
Not at all.
> "Double edged sword" i hear you say. Well yes but it would be
> preferable not to have a sword in the first place. What other kinds of
> "solutions" may be out there that serve the purposes of making it
> easier to find, reuse and have assurance of quality - *without*
> having this property of encouraging restriction and over-precision
> on the flipside?
I haven't seen this flipside.
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