[okfn-discuss] OK Definition is flawed by imposing restrictions
rob at robmyers.org
rob at robmyers.org
Mon Jan 14 11:34:32 GMT 2008
Quoting Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>:
> Rob Myers wrote:
>> I am aware of the Wikipedia and OSM attribution problems. These are
>> a failures of planning by otherwise excellent projects, not a deep
>> problem with attribution.
> I must confess I am not as knowledgeable as yourself as to what these
> current problems are. Would you mind providing some further
> information? Is it that attribution is required to each individual
OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia are very successful projects with many
contributors. Each of those contributors must be given attribution
under the licences that OSM (BY-SA) and Wikipedia (FDL) use. Since a
town map from OSM or a detailed article on a popular subject from
Wikipedia may have dozens of contributors, attributing them all
individually can become a burden.
OSM in particular are discussing how to better handle attribution.
BY-SA 2 introduced group attribution and the ability to separate
attribution from the work (if this is done for *every* author: I can't
put my name on the cover then relegate others to a web page somewhere)
IIRC. Copyright assignment or agreeing to allow indirect attribution
as a condition for contributing might also work.
>> The OKD's failure to ensure that knowledge is restrictable is not a
>> flaw. Its acknowledgement of licences that make knowledge
>> restrictable is a flaw from my point of view, but I think it's a
>> reasonable compromise.
> What "acknowledgment of licences" did you have in mind here? I'd be
> very interested to have your comments in this regard as well as any
> suggestions for how things could be 'fixed' if there is something that
> isn't right.
The "conformant licences" section lists the MIT and CC-BY licences as
conformant. These licences allow work to be used by individuals who
then close it off to others.
I personally believe that such licences are usually not as useful as
copyleft licences but I recognize that they can have their practical
uses and that some people are attached to them for ideological
reasons. I think that the OKD is therefore right to recognise such
licences, and should ignore both people like myself who do not like
them, and others who believe they are the only acceptable option. ;-)
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